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Welcome to the [community profile] wiscon_vidparty vidding workshop! We hope this will be a chance for new or potential vidders to find out more about what’s involved in making a vid and to see the wide variety of ways vidders make vids, and for vidders of all skill levels to discuss vidding and share tips and ideas. Everyone is welcome to participate!

This workshop will be discussion- and question-based, so please, start or jump into any discussions you want to have and ask any questions about any aspect of vidding! Finding ideas, getting source, clipping (or not), editing programs, codecs, rendering, effects, specific technical issues you’re having, discussion about specific vids, discussing your own ideas, links to useful resources, tutorials, cheerleading--any and all vidding related topics are welcome.

We’ve created a few categories to keep some of the major topic threads organized. If you have a comment or question or want to start a discussion on a certain topic, just comment below the relevant subject. (We’re flexible though, so don’t fret too much about getting things in the right place. If in doubt, just give your thread a descriptive subject line so people can find it).

Feel free to add new threads if what you want to talk about isn't covered by the categories, but please give your comment a descriptive subject line so readers can tell what’s being discussed.

We have several awesome vidders who have volunteered to participate and introduce themselves at their convenience. We will be linking to their introductions as they appear. Keep an eye out and feel free to ask them specific questions!

Topics (to get you started--add your own threads and subthreads!)

Vid Idea Development -- Finding and developing ideas for new vids

Tech Questions -- Hardware and software (PC, Mac or Linux), codecs, aspect ratios, exporting and rendering, effects, etc.
          Questions asked/discussed:
          -- Software to use on a PC? (including discussion of Windows Movie Maker & Lightworks)
          -- Vidding with iMovie09?
          -- Codec rec: Avid DNxHD
          -- Converter recs for Macs?
          -- Linux clipping?

Getting Started (and Finished) -- From beginning to end, how do you make a vid? Getting source, clipping, editing workflows, tips for getting started, etc.
          • Subthread: Editing workflows/processes
                --chaila (VirtualDub, Vegas, Zarx264gui)
                --heresluck (DVD Decrypter, DGIndex, Premiere, Zarx264gui)
                --thingswithwings (Handbrake, Mac the Ripper, MPEG Streamclip, Final Cut Pro, Sound Studio)
                --ghost_lingering (Adobe Premiere & AfterEffects, Mac the Ripper, and mpeg streamclip)
                --eruthros (DVD Decrypter, VirtualDub, AvsPmod, Premiere, Zarx264gui)
                --such_heights (Switch, audio editing/conversion, Final Cut)
                --beccatoria (avidemux, Cinelerra)

          • Other questions/discussion
           -- How to time clips to the beat?
           -- Using markers
           -- Approaching editing/revising? & how to deal with ambition outstripping effects/transition knowledge?
           -- Free/cheap editing software for Macs?
           -- Ripping DVDs vs. downloaded source?
           -- Note re: codecs & compression

Links and References -- Link helpful resources from elsewhere on the internet.
          -- Various lists of resources, including subtitling
          -- Mac vidders: how to get the shiniest source
          -- Lots of links, especially about vidding creativity
          -- Panel notes on song choice
          -- A&E's Technical Guide to All Things Audio and Video
          -- Audio editing
          -- Multiple aspect ratio tutorials
          -- Understanding codecs & containers, & Autodesk software for students

VIDDING SQUEE - All things happy, fun, and inspiring.
          • The first vid you made you're still proud of?
          • Vids/vidders that inspired us!

Meet the Vidder Threads

Meet the Vidder: Rhi
Meet the Vidder: metatxt
Meet the Vidder: such heights
Meet the Vidder: kiki_miserychic
Meet the Vidder: Garrideb
Meet the Vidder: ghost lingering
Meet the Vidder: here's luck
Meet the Vidder: chaila

ETA 3/3/14: The main part of the workshop has concluded, but please feel free to add answers or info if you've got them! We've organized a list of the threads, questions and answers for ease of browsing. And don't forget that you can sign up to be a vidding mentor to a newer vidder, or sign up to get a mentor!

Re: Vid Idea Development

Date: 2014-03-01 06:37 pm (UTC)
ghost_lingering: Crichton got hit with a television set (fandom: we have DOLLUCKS!)
From: [personal profile] ghost_lingering
Well, first, I do have a vid that uses audio that is not a song! It is a Firefly vid that is about Shepherd Book's faith as well as the way that black men are positioned in the Firefly universe and it is to dialogue from Pulp Fiction (Samuel L. Jackson talk to me forever!). Link to the vid "Shepherd" here. I talk quite a bit about the process — including the decision to use the audio I did — in my notes in the post.

That's a pretty specific case, though, and the process I had for making/concieving of that vid was very different than my typical process! I do have a list of songs that jumped out at me as This Should Be A Vid About A Thing, but I've also had to do song hunts for The Perfect Song About A Thing. Usually the later happens when I'm vidding for exchanges and the former happens when I am just making a vid. I also have a list of Songs That Would Make Good Vids But Fuck If I Know What They Would Be About. And I do keep an ear out for songs that would work for vague ideas I have that haven't quite coalesced, often because I haven't heard a song to focus the idea yet.

When I hunt for songs it's a process. Since my song hunts typically are exchange based I usually start a playlist of "songs that remind me of fandoms/characters I offered" before assignments go out. Sometimes this yeilds suprising results. The year I vidded Capital Scandal for Festivids I found the song I used only because I was looking for songs that might work for a vid for the Pixar movie Brave. I honestly just typed "brave" into iTunes to see what came up and lo the song "Brave" by A Particularly Vicious Rumor appeared. Despite the fact that it sounded nothing like the Pixar film, I added it to my playlist because it's an interesting song and the playlist was just for generating ideas anyway. When I finally got my assignment I realized that the song fit Cha Song Joo.

Likewise, when I participated in Tight Present, I made a playlist of songs that dealt with issues that TSCC raises: technology, religion, parenting, etc. Losing Our Religions came out of the fact that I got distracted while adding "songs about religion" to the playlist and started to do a cover hunt for covers of Losing My Religion. And Elephant Connection came from my This Would Make A Good Vid But Fuck If I Know What About list. Because, damn that is one creepy song. But it was Sanguinity's request that put the song in a new light for me and made me think: yes, actually, this WOULD be a good song for TSCC.

When a song jumps out at me as a vid, though, it's a bit different. It often takes me much much longer to make the vid; perhaps this makes sense since if I'm just making a vid for shits and giggles there isn't a deadline involved. I have a laundry list of "songs to vid" and only a small fraction of them have been made. Clipping tends to be a huge hurdle for me — it's just so boring! — that actually making vids without the pressure of a deadline can be difficult. Right now I have something like 10 vids that I have songs for (let's see … 2 - Inception, 1 - Farscape, 1 - Harry Potter, 3 - BtVS, 1 - Soldier's Girl/Boys Don't Cry, 1 - West Wing, 1 - Hong Gil Dong) with another half dozen or so that I have solid ideas for but that I probably won't make for whatever reason (1 - Hunger Games, 1 - Angel, 1 - Smallville, 1 - TSCC, 2 - multi, 1 - Stargate, 1 - Painter of the Wind). Some of these ideas I've carried with me for a long time; like [personal profile] heresluck says, I do get false positives, but these are the ideas that have stuck. If the vid idea still interests me 6 years later then, yeah, I'm probably going to eventually make it. I just have to finally sit down and clip.

Re: Vid Idea Development

Date: 2014-03-01 11:59 pm (UTC)
kiki_miserychic: A Dinosaur and Kate Spade Shoes Fairytale (Default)
From: [personal profile] kiki_miserychic
I LOVE SHEPHERD!

Re: Vid Idea Development

Date: 2014-03-02 11:47 am (UTC)
valika: (Default)
From: [personal profile] valika
Oh, this Shepherd vid is really interesting! Cool idea and awesome result! And it was also interesting what you wrote about the process.

I love the name of the categories for vidsongs.:) Most of the songs I want to vid are on "This Would Make A Good Vid But Fuck If I Know What About" list unfortunately.

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